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The Gila Queen, Kathryn Ptacek

by
J. M. Cornwell

If you have read Kathryn Grant, Kathryn Atwood, Kathleen Maxwell, Anne Mayfield, or Les Simons you have already been introduced to the many faces and characters of Kathryn Ptacek. 

Kathryn Ptacek draws on the stark landscapes of New Mexico to create characters and bring our deepest fears and shadows to life.   Studying with mystery writer Tony Hillerman and well known YA writer Lois Duncan at the University of New Mexico taught her depth and an honesty that shows through even her darkest tales.  It is no wonder no genre has put its stamp on her, whereas Kathryn has put her stamp on several genres. 

She held many different jobs, from working for a political party and telephone solicitation to advertising layout and secretarial duties while finishing her first novel, which was an historical romance.  In 1979 with the sale of her historical romance, she quit to become her own boss – a full time novelist.  It didn’t take her long to move from historical romance to dark fantasy, horror, and anthologies, winning silver and gold medals from the West Coast Review of Books. 

This multi talented lady shares a 119-year-old Victorian clapboard home with her husband, dark fantasy novelist Charles L. Grant, and four cats (Huckleberry Fang, Lovejoy, Poko, and Pepper) in Newton, New Jersey.  Kathryn also collects of Gila monster memorabilia, unusual teapots, and cat whiskers. 

There is little Kathryn has not accomplished and it is certain the future holds more surprises for writers and readers.  You will find her writing everywhere in columns, essays, reviews, novels, and  anthologies. The Gila Queen’s Guide to Markets and the Horror Writers Association newsletter are Kathryn’s ongoing creations. 

Kathryn has never allowed a genre or a new territory keep her from moving onward and upward.  She is proof that perseverance pays off and creativity need not be limited.

Rose & Thorn: When did you begin writing? Why?

Kathryn Ptacek:  I wrote my first story when I was fourteen for an English class, and I realized then that I wanted to be a writer. However, I knew no writers, and I didn’t think people could make a living that way, so I decided to go into journalism--where, I figured, I would at least be writing, even if it wasn’t fiction. I couldn’t have been more wrong--article writing was a far cry from short stories, and it wasn’t as satisfying to me. I "dabbled" for years after that, although I did write my first novel--some 500 pages--when I was seventeen (It was Senior Week, and I was bored.). I look back and see that I really wasted a lot of time; I had no direction, no idea what I was doing, and it’s frustrating. 

R&T:  What was your first story and what was the inspiration for the story? 

Kathryn:  The first one I wrote was a story based on the TV series, The Man From U.N.C.L.E. It was never published, of course. 

R&T: What writers have influenced you the most?

Kathryn:  That’s hard to answer. I’m not one of those writers who went through phases when she started out, then discovered her own voice after X number of stories or novels. I just spun my wheels some more and muddled through until I finally discovered my style.

One writer who has had a profound influence--not through his writing, but his teaching--was my professor in college, Tony Hillerman, the award-winning mystery writer (although he had just sold his first novel back then). Tony was the head of the journalism department at [the University of New Mexico] when I was there, and he called me into his office one day. I thought I was in trouble. What he told me was that I was one of the three best writers he’d had in [all] the years he’d been teaching. I was so naive back then--I looked around his office because I wondered who he was talking to. Then I realized he meant me. I was just stunned. Then he proceeded to tell me why he marked my stuff down--he graded me against, not the other students, but what he knew I could do. His confidence in me--that I could do better--is something I’ll never forget. 

R&T:  How do you feel movies and television have impacted reading?  Do you feel they are or should be mutually exclusive?

Kathryn:  My hope is that people, having seen a movie, will go out and read the book upon which the movie is based or even pick up some other books about the event or characters in the film. I’m not sure that happens. I imagine that when Seabiscuit, the movie came out, the sales of the book increased greatly, but the book had already been a bestseller before that. Somehow, though, I don’t think most people try to hunt up the book after seeing a movie.

R&T:  Of all the characters you have created, which one is your favorite?

Kathryn: I love Chato Del-Klinne--he’s the Apache protagonist of Shadoweyes and Ghost Dance, and I’d like to use him in some mystery novels. However, perhaps my all-time favorite character is one who has not appeared in anything published yet. Her name is Cassie, and she is a character in search of a book and a genre. I wrote about her first in a Regency romance that didn’t sell, and I never forgot her. I thought about putting her in some Regency mysteries, but I didn’t pursue that. Years later I wrote a mystery with her as a protagonist--the mystery is still sitting in my computer. I can’t decide on when the book should be set: present day or the 1890s. From time to time, I think about her and wonder what I should try next with her in it. And recently I’ve been wondering if Cassie might not work better in a chick lit novel!

R&T: Most writers put a little of themselves and their beliefs into the characters and worlds they create. Which characters are most like you?  

Kathryn:  Heh. That would be my suburban witch character, who has shown up in several short stories. I’m not sure she’s much like me; perhaps it’s more of a case that I’d like to be like her. I have this list, you see ...

Sometimes things that have happened to me show up in my stories--always the stories, though, never the novels. I think stories are a good form of therapy for writers.

R&T:  What schedule do you follow when writing?  

Kathryn:  Well, I don’t write every day, and I never have. I was told by one woman years ago that I would never be a writer because I didn’t write every single day. I know what she was trying to say--it helps if you do sit down and write daily--but the thing is, I did become a writer, and I don’t maintain a regular schedule. I tend to write in bursts, which can be incredibly exhausting. Recently I wrote a 20+ page story in a matter of hours. My fingers flew across the keyboard, and I was absolutely focused. Of course, the next day I was so drained that I could barely function above the level of a carrot.

I’ve been thinking that I need to set aside some time each week to write. I find the days just go by, and I haven’t written anything. 

R&T:  How much research goes into your writing and stories and how much is research you have already learned and continue to rely upon? 

Kathryn: I love to research. My historical romance and historical horror novels were researched quite heavily--I probably read dozens of books for each one. I love plowing through the books to find some nugget I can use in a novel--and sometimes it wasn’t even for something important. And that can be a problem. Many times I would get diverted by something fascinating that I found, but which had absolutely no bearing on my novel.

When I was writing about a particular historical era in the romances, I didn’t always have to do a massive amount of research for the next book. I had done the basics to establish the period, so I just had to check smaller things. 

R&T:  As a writer, editor, and publisher of The Gila Queen Guide to the Markets, which job is most fulfilling and gets more of your attention? Why?

Kathryn: It depends. When I’m editing a book manuscript, I think: I’d really like to write now. Then I start writing, and think: I’d like to edit someone else’s stuff now. It always seems my favorite thing to do is the thing that I am NOT doing at the present. However, I always have time and energy for The Gila Queen.

R&T:  Why did you choose the name Gila Queen for your marketing newsletter? 

Kathryn:  The third novel I wold was called Gila!--it was part of [North American Library]'s "killer bug" type novels they put out in the late 70s and early 80s.  Gila!, while the third novel I wrote, was actually the first one that came out.  Some time after that a friend called and Charlie answered the phone and said, "Wait, I'll get the Gila Queen for you."  We have no idea why he said that!  Anyway, years later, when I started the newsletter (in late '88), I needed a title and The Gila Queen's Guide to Markets is the first thing that popped into my mind.  I liked it because it didn't have "writers" or "writing" in the title.  I think the Gila Queen stands out because it's different. 

R&T:  When did you begin Gila Queen and editing the Horror Writer's Association (HWA) newsletter?

Kathryn:  I started the Gila Queen in late 1988.  It was no more than a few typed pages to friends.  [I] started editing the HWA newsletter in the spring of 2000, with the first issue in May [2000]. 

R&T:  Does being married to a successful author like Charles Grant help or hinder your own writing? Are your styles the same or different? How do you manage your schedules - who gets the computer first? Do you edit each other's work?  

Kathryn: Our styles are completely different: He has a flowing, literate style, while I tend to be terser, less descriptive (it’s the journalism influence). His horror is quiet; I’m the one known for the splatter. When we got our first computer some twenty years ago, we shared it. That didn’t last long. We had to get two computers, because we were both planted in front of them so long each day and night. I almost always ask him to look over my stuff just to make sure I’ve caught things, and he does the same. But there is no massive editing.

Help or hinder? I think it’s great being married to another writer. I know so many writers with non-writing spouses who just don’t understand that the writer HAS to sit there, ignoring everything else, until the story is done or the chapter is finished. I’ve known a lot of folks with tension in their marriage because the other person just doesn’t get writers.

R&T: Some publishers have said that anthologies don't sell well and aren't worth publishing. How do you feel, especially since a lot of your short stories have appeared in anthologies and you have edited a few anthologies on your own?

Kathryn: Anthologies don’t sell well, it’s true--unless there a mega-name in the book, and sometimes that doesn’t always guarantee good sales. But anthologies are always worth publishing. Some of the first science fiction stories I read were in those old reprint anthologies published in the ‘60s. I read tons of mystery stories in the Alfred Hitchcock anthologies, too. All these books introduced me to authors I would never have read otherwise.

I think the problem is that some publishers don’t know how to sell anthologies--these books are never going to be on the bestseller list (unless they have the words "Chicken Soup" in the title), but they’re books that could continue to sell over the years. Unfortunately, that’s not what publishing is about any more. Everything in our lives has become a matter of instant gratification. If it’s not a bestseller, then dump it. If it’s not a huge success at the box office the first weekend, forget it. And yet there are books and movies that continue to build success, week after week or even month after month (or year after year). 

R&T:  Does being a member of a writer's association help the writing process and the business of writing? Why? Does it really matter?

Kathryn:  It’s nice to be in an organization with writers of the same genre. Sometimes an organization can go to bat for a writer, and that’s good. But many successful writers don’t belong to any organization. I think the main reason for being in a group is for support. 

R&T:  Writers tend to be their own worst critics. Which of your stories or books would you wish to rewrite and why?

Kathryn:  I don’t know. I never look at my stories and novels after they’re published. I’m afraid of what I might find. Once my work is done, that’s it. I never want to look at it again, and I can’t imagine rewriting it. I did the best job I could then, and now it’s time to move onto the next project. 

R&T:  Your writing covers several genres. Does sticking to one genre pigeon hole a writer? Does writing in one genre help a writer focus? Or is it better to be more flexible? Why? Why not?

Kathryn:  Be flexible. Why? Because genres come and go--that is, they don’t completely disappear, but sometimes they go bust; genres rise and fall in popularity. Historical romances did that right after I sold some--they’d been doing well, boom, down the tubes ... for a while; ditto with horror. If I had written just one genre, I would have had trouble adjusting. I’m not interested in just one thing in life, so why should I write just one kind of thing? That would be utterly boring to me. I like to challenge myself to write different genres. It’s a way of having fun and growing as a writer at the same time. 

R&T:  We hear a lot about the best selling authors or celebrities writing/co-writing books, but seldom do we hear about mid-list authors. Do you believe mid-list writers should get more respect and more support from publishers? Why? Why not?

Kathryn:  Ten or more years ago mid-list writers made up a lot of what people read. Then somewhere along the way, publishing changed, and the mid-list writer got pushed out. It’s a shame, because there are dozens and dozens--if not hundreds--of mid-list writers that are read by only a handful of devoted fans. They simply don’t get the attention that some celebrity would-be writer gets for their so-called books. Any more with the way publishing is, a writer has to be an instant bestseller or that’s it. In previous decades publishers "built" writers up--started them, encouraged their work, promoted them, etc.

R&T:  Why did you decide to branch out into other genres, such as romance? Is the process different for writing romance as opposed to writing horror?

Kathryn:  Actually, the first thing I ever sold--Satan’s Angel--was a romance. I chose that because historical romance was hot in those days (the late ’70s), and I thought I had a better chance in getting published there. When I started my novel-writing career, I wasn’t even thinking about horror. I just wanted to write. It was only as I sold a couple of more books that I began to think of some horror novels ...

Well, all of my romances have been historical; some of the horror is set in present day, and that was actually more jarring to me. I loved doing the historical horror. I guess if it’s historical, I like doing it.

The writing process for both is pretty much the same.

R&T:  Many successful writers use pseudonyms when they want to separate their well known name from a new endeavor. Do you feel a pseudonym is helpful?

Kathryn:  I think it’s helpful for different genres--some writers develop a different "voice" for each pen name and type of writing (one pen name might write westerns; another might do mysteries, etc.). Plus some writers don’t want to seem to write "too much" under their own names. The only hindrance I can see is that sometimes readers don’t know that a certain book is by you. But most readers who are really astute make it a point of knowing a writer’s other names. I don’t think it much matters any more. And it seems that when an author gets famous, their old pseudonymous stuff gets republished, so that’s not much of a hindrance.

R&T:  You have written some of work under pseudonyms? Was that your choice or the publisher's choice?

Kathryn:  It was always my choice. With my fantasy trilogy, I chose to write under the name "Kathryn Grant," but that was because the publisher wanted all rights to my own name, Kathryn Ptacek, and there was no way that was going to happen.

R&T:  How did you choose your pseudonyms?

Kathryn:  Well, when I first starting selling I didn’t want to use the Ptacek name for the historical--I wanted something that sounded more "English," more "romantic," as it were. Kathryn Atwood is a combination of my first name and a name from my mom’s family. That was her father’s middle name. I just thought it sounded really good. When I published with a different company, I chose "Kathleen Maxwell." I wanted a variation of my first name--close, but not the same--and the Maxwell came from some TV credits. I just happened to see that name one night, and thought that it sounded good with the Kathleen. "Anne Mayfield" comes from the use of my middle name and yet another name from my mom’s family. I had a lot of neat names from her family, even some pen names I never got around to using. And for "Gila!" I chose Les Simons because Les was my dad’s name, and Simons was nice and sibilant, and I wanted that since I was dealing with giant Gila monsters!

R&T:  What do you consider your worst and your best stories? Why?

Kathryn:  You know, I just don’t think in those terms. I like some stories better than others, but I never think of something as my worst--or my best. My best is always the one coming up. I hope. If I had to chose a story that meant a lot to me, though, it would be "Each Night, Each Year," a story about a woman whose father is dying. I wrote it shortly after my dad died. There’s a lot of me, a lot of my own situation in that story.

R&T:  Given the choice between going back to journalism or continuing to write and edit, which would you choose? Why?

Kathryn:  Well, I never worked at a newspaper (at least as a reporter; I did work at our local paper in the composing room, and that’s a whole ’nother tale), so there’s not much to go back to.  But I am branching out into more nonfiction even now. Actually, I’d like to do it all. I want to write fiction and articles and edit.

R&T:  Of all the writing criticism and/or tips you have been given, which helped you the most/least?

Kathryn:  Watch out for the passive voice. I struggle with that even now.

R&T:  What advice would you give a writer just starting out?  

Kathryn:  Read. Read everything. Write as much as you can. Subscribe to The Gila Queen’s Guide to Markets so that you know where to send your stuff.  Send your stories and articles and poems out to magazines and publishers and agents, because it doesn’t do you any good to hang onto this stuff. Don’t be afraid of rejection. No one likes it, of course, but the fact is: You will always be rejected, even after you start to sell. So, you might as well get used to an editor saying no. Something got bounced? Send it out that day or the next; don’t let it sit around. And don’t feel sorry for yourself because you got rejected. It’s just part of the writing game, and it’s not personal (or it shouldn’t be). 

R&T:  What legacy would you like to leave?

Kathryn:  Gack. She died with her boots on? I have no idea. I think it’s too soon for me to even begin to contemplate a legacy. Ask me in another ten years or so.

To see more of Kathryn's work check out her Bibliography

J. M. Cornwell is a nationally syndicated freelance journalist and books and words have been a lifelong love.  She is editing a mainstream romance novel, finishing a book on a groundbreaking theory about Stonehenge, putting together a consumer security column for national syndication, writing a book about Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde, and Jack the Ripper, and is currently living and writing in a Colorado mountain cabin.  She also designs and maintains websites and some of her work can be seen here in The Rose & Thorn. In 2002, Ms. Cornwell added teaching to her list of credentials and freelances full time with her company, Creative Ink, LLC..

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